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Basic concepts
[edit]@JArthur1984: your recent edit demonstrates that you misunderstood a basic fact.
Would you please pin point to me where you got that the Voice of America is "an agency"?
It is financed by an agency called the U.S. Agency for Global Media. There's a big difference here!
Everything was already referenced in the lead.
The version before your edit had the following:
Voice of America (VOA or VoA) is the international radio broadcaster of the United States of America.
[...] It is financed by the U.S. Agency for Global Media after the approval of the Congress.
Currently is it as follows:
Voice of America (VOA or VoA) is an international radio broadcasting state media agency funded by the United States of America. [...] It is financed by the U.S. Agency for Global Media after the approval of the Congress.
To label it "state media" in the first sentence is misleading. It is governed by an independent state agency after the approval of the congress. Is it too hard to distinguish between this democratic process and the direct influence of the state media as a mouthpiece of the government? An example of the latter is
- RT news,
- Rossiya 1,
- CCTV, and
- Voice of the Arabs
where such sources are mouthpieces of their own governments, aren't critical of them, whereas the Voice of America reports about everything, whether it's critical or not. These are simply basics.
--Esperfulmo (talk) 23:50, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's part of the of the U.S. Agency for Global Media (USAGM). But there are plenty of words other than agency -- "network," "broadcaster," or "institution" could all work instead of "agency" without losing any meaning.
- VOA is state-media. There are no efforts made to compare it to your other examples, so I'm not clear why you bring these up. There are numerous kinds of state-media, with more or less government editorial control, depending. State-media is not the same as "mouthpiece," and it's not necessarily a pejorative term (this depends on the reader's perspective). You can familiarize yourself with wikilinked state media article to develop a sense of the different state media approaches that exist. JArthur1984 (talk) 01:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Special English
[edit]Needs a section about Special English, which started in 1959. The VOA's use of Special English has helped millions of people learn English. TDKehoe (talk) 20:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Apparently Trump has shut this, article needs update
[edit]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvge4l109r3o Jmabel | Talk 15:57, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- It’s not been disestablished as that’s not in his power, it’s been cut to the legal minimum. Secretlondon (talk) 07:37, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Jmabel @MaeseLeon @Secretlondon The network has not been shut down and media has not described it as being shut down. The article linked and other articles write about "moves to close down", "dismantling", and "slashing", but as @Secretlondon has written, it is not within Trump's power to officially disestablish the agency and rather he has shuttered federal funding. Granted, it is effectively inactive given that virtually all staff have been put on leave, but from a legal standpoint, I think that for now we should avoid labelling it as 'dissolved', and 'disestablished', at least until it is described as such by reliable news sources. As such, I will be reverting the recent changes to change descriptions of the article to put it in past-tense, but if you disagree with my decision, please feel free to file a dispute resolution request. I request that you refrain from making the edits in question until the dispute has been resolved, given that the suggested changes are the ones in contention. ⌨️NuclearSpuds🎙️ 11:24, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Kind of splitting hairs, but OK. However, it needs to be added that all their services and stations stopped broadcasting by March 16, effectively taking them off air. The Voice of America going silent is big, is historical, and it's already impacting America's rep around the world. MaeseLeon (talk) 17:16, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- VOA hasn't actually stopped broadcasting, at least not yet. The sources actually say news programming (on some broadcasts at least) have been replaced by music. Legally the administration can't close VOA without an act of Congress. They have effectively suspended regular programming but it is still on the air, even if it's just music and reruns. Wellington Bay (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree just make sure changes are sourced ⌨️NuclearSpuds🎙️ 19:53, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Kind of splitting hairs, but OK. However, it needs to be added that all their services and stations stopped broadcasting by March 16, effectively taking them off air. The Voice of America going silent is big, is historical, and it's already impacting America's rep around the world. MaeseLeon (talk) 17:16, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- It is necessary to review Wikipedia:CRYSTALBALL. It is good for the article to reflect the administration's statements and the fact of staff being placed on leave, and so forth. But until it is in fact shut down, we cannot say it is shut down. JArthur1984 (talk) 12:42, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with all of the above, as long as the article tries to stay current. - Jmabel | Talk 15:46, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Please read the actual source articles and not just the headlines. VoA is not literally silent and has not stopped broadcasting. Wellington Bay (talk) 17:58, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
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